Anonymous asked:Only been in Japan for a bit more than a year, but the only subgenres I've heard japanese people use is Kotekote (Kote) kei and Neo visual kei, but that's about it. Are there more? (I mean subgenres not made up by westerners lol)
I’m not saying that subgenres are made up by Westerners - my point was that I’ve found that the non-Japanese speaking fandom wants to use these terms way more than Japanese people ever use them. I suspect it’s some mixture of a desire to prove to the world how awesome and knowledgeable they are about the minutiae of VK and that they want to prove they’re cool and know Japanese words.
I’m not saying that Japanese people don’t use these subgenre classifications, but the problem is that people rarely agree about what band belongs in what subgenre, and bands are constantly trying to create their own subgenres (which frequently do not catch on). And some of the genre descriptors fall in and out of favor over time.
But yeah, if you’re asking what they are, there are dozens of supposed VK subgenres with varying degrees of people actually knowing WTF they are.
There’s oshare-kei (オサレ系/お洒落系), which is characterized by colorful, poppy bands like An Cafe, SuG, Kra, etc. Then, like you mentioned, there’s kote-kei (コテ系) which includes a lot of the over-the-top bands with really heavy makeup like Phantasmagoria, D, and early-era Dir en grey. There’s koteosa-kei (コテオサ系), which is a mixture of kote-kei and oshare-kei and is roughly said to include bands such as 12012, Alice Nine, Vidoll, etc.
There’s tanbi-kei (耽美系), which is the bands that have the pseudo-European pseudo-historical concept such as Malice Mizer, Versailles, Lareine, etc. There’s chikashitsu-kei (地下室系), which is sometimes known as angura-kei (アングラ系), which roughly means “underground” music and is characterized by bands like Metronome and Inugami Circus Dan. Which is also sort of related to mishitsu-kei (密室系), named for the label “Missitsu Neurosis” and featuring bands like cali≠gari and early MUCC. There’s eroguro-kei (エログロ系), which means “erotic and grotesque” and is characterized by bands like Merry and Kagerou.
There’s Nagoya-kei (名古屋系), which features bands from the Nagoya (or greater Aichi) area who have dark visuals and music. Kuroyume, lynch., and Deathgaze all fall into this category.
There’s “soft” visual-kei, which is bands that wear less makeup and not so crazy clothing - GLAY, Janne da Arc, and SOPHIA are some examples.
I could literally go on forever - iryo-kei (医療系), who are bands that wear bandages or other medical gear like LuLu, kurofuku-kei (黒服系) who are “bands who wear black clothes” (total cop-out genre I refuse to even acknowledge). Then the subgenres sometimes have subgenres (kurokote-kei, “old” Nagoya-kei vs. “new” Nagoya-kei, etc. etc. etc.). It literally goes on forever and I’ve almost never actually heard Japanese fans talking about most of them.